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November 1st, 2008
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Is OBAMA the "Prince" Of "Bait and Switch"?
Is OBAMA the "Prince" Of "Bait and Switch"?

It has been speculated by Our friend Ester, (a Philippine/U.S. Naturalized citizen) that, as it has sometimes happened in Philippine politics, That the DNC may have placed OBAMA as their candidate Knowing FULL WELL that he would not be able to take the oath of office For the FULL REASON of GETTING DONATIONS to Fill The DNC's Coffers.

Although I do not Like it, I must admit that if this is so, it is the strategic equivalent of "Operation Mincemeat", A staggeringly successful British Intelligence Operation during WW 2, Told Effectively in the Book and Movie,

"The Man Who Never Was.

In it, a Dead Man who had been a nobody was taken by British Navel Intelligence and give a Phony Personality that made him look like someone of importance. Everything..his credentials and even theatre tickets were fabricated to look genuine and doggy. The Body was discovered and handed over to German Intelligence where his Identity and the false plans for allied invasions were swallowed whole.

Although a live person, I believe that is is wholly possible that OBAMA is Just such a "Man who never was".
Surely he has been "swallowed whole" and the DNC is 640 million richer for it: http://www.opensecrets.org/pres08/summary.php?cid=N00009638

If indeed the DNC knows and has always known that OBAMA cannot legally take the oath of office because of his immigration issues: http://www.newswithviews.com/Vieira/edwin84.htm , Is it possible that the DNC wanted Bidden for President all along and KNEW he would NEVER win against McCain if he stood on his own feet?

Truly, Bidden could have NEVER raised 640 million.

Truly, with 640 Million to buy every advantage, why is the race so close? Shouldn't the DNC be "Winning" by a landslide?

Some People believe that if OBAMA is disqualified by the Electoral College, that Bidden Automatically takes office. This is a question worth exploring at length.

But even if Bidden cannot take office, the DNC is the clear winner. There will surely be megabucks left in the coffers after race day and they will be in the position of advantage from which to launch counter strikes in the future.

Surely, if this is so, the DNC has pulled off the greatest strategic Ploy ever and OBAMA will forever be Known as "The Prince of Bait and Switch".....and if Senator McCain Wins, He truly wins this election "Against all Odds".

Vince,
OXOjamm.

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From:iarwain
Date:November 1st, 2008 07:40 am (UTC)
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It has been, to the extent that the law is concerned, proven that Obama was born in Hawaii. http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html

I'd rather focus on Sen. Obama's lack of sufficient experience to run the country, his socialist leaning politics, etc.

There are REAL reasons I can't back Obama. There are real reasons I can't back McCain, or Bob Barr either.

This is an election of Tweedle Dee vs. Tweedle Dumb.

There is no candidate currently running for the office of President nor Vice-President that I can support with a clear conscience.

All I know is I am not for Obama, but I despise what Sen. McCain has become in this race. McCain has an honorable history of bravery and service, but since his decision to seek the Whitehouse, he has changed into a pandering, doubletalking puppet for the GOP.
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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 07:49 am (UTC)
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At least you are seeking the truth and not burying your head in the sand.

I know that whatever you do it will be the right decision for you.

Best Regards,
V.
OXOjamm.
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From:sc00ter
Date:November 1st, 2008 08:46 am (UTC)
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I'm sorry, this post is stupid.

Like iarwain, I'm having a hard time picking somebody. I probably would have backed McCain until he picked a nutjob for a running mate.

But this is like posting a big entry about how he's a Muslim, or a number of the other falsehoods that have been proven over and over and over again to not be true.

I would even go as far as to say that this post is irresponsible. Talk about issues, not fairy tales.
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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 09:09 am (UTC)

Like it or Not

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The last time I checked, the United States Supreme Court was no Fairy tale, but the Highest Judicial authority in the United States.

And as of the 30th of Oct, 2008, that is where the matter is now....Like it, or not: http://docs.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/pennsylvania/paedce/2:2008cv04083/281573/30/

Regards,
Vince,
OXOjamm.
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From:sc00ter
Date:November 1st, 2008 11:20 am (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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That's an appeals document. Somebody could do the same for to me if I ran and I was born in Manchester, NH and lived in NH all my life, that means nothing.

The original case was dismissed, so his citizenship currently stands.

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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 11:50 am (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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His Citizenship cannot "Stand" because it was never proven in the first place. OBAMA has not yet been vetted by his own party.

Try to keep an open mind with this. It is to your own advantage to do so.

Regards;
Vince,
OXOjamm.
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From:sc00ter
Date:November 1st, 2008 12:19 pm (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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The supreme court has not accepted the appeal yet, the last case was dismissed. He has a US birth certificate that is valid until proven otherwise.

The burden of proof is on the accusing party, not the other way around.

As James "The Amazing" Randi once said.. It's good to have an open mind, but not so open your brains fall out.

I see a valid US birth certificate and courts that have dismissed cases against it. An appeals document that has not been accepted yet is not proof enough to change my mind on this matter. Will further evidence change my mind, of course, but that has yet to be presented.
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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 12:42 pm (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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I'm not going to get cute by saying, "if you have seen OBAMAs birth certificate, you are a rare individual, indeed."...Oh well, I did say it after all, but I know what you mean.

Seeing a birth certificate on the Internet isn't proof, my good man. Hell...no more than Indiana Jones can really swing on his whip. My 12 year old neighbor can photoshop a better one, I think deep inside you already know that.

Well, I believe your mind is open...as you caution, try not to let your brains fall out. But please remember, when I go to get a drivers license, they have every right to ask for my birth certificate. How far do you think I would get if i said, "Bullshit! The burden of proof is on YOU to prove that I don't have one."

And this issue of OBAMA's is for the Presidency...not a drivers license.

Stay Well,
V.
OXOjamm.


Edited at 2008-11-01 12:43 pm (UTC)
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From:sc00ter
Date:November 1st, 2008 01:05 pm (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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Well, the courts didn't see the evidence as good enough for a case and dismissed, and that factcheck.org site seemed to have some great images and analysis. Not everything needs first hand inspection, you can draw conclusions by the evidence presented. I don't need to go to the Grand Canyon personally to know it's there.

Obama has presented is birth certificate, it has been inspected by others and it appears to be valid. Just like if the DMV asked for it.

He does have one, and it's been presented. Now the ball is in your court, so your analogy is false.
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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 01:38 pm (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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A simple Phone call to your State Attorney Generals Office on Monday will verify that not a single state Attorney general has received this requested documentation. Over half of the states Attorney generals are filing their own cases as we blog this, (and Counting).

I'm a thousand Min over on my plan from doing this. The State Attorney Generals will not accept a Faxed or Internet posted copy. All other candidates (and past candidates) have already complied..some as long ago as a year.

I do not believe we should make an exception for OBAMA.

Now, to support your claim, (in the tradition of fairness hallmarked by fox news) Our Senior Audio Engineer, (Senior Jose Gomez Jr), Claims that he got THIS:
license without having to show his birth certificate...so you may be right...seeing is believing. Perhaps I should have more faith in Internet Images....(^>)

I just couldn't resist that one...that is a Hoot though, don't you think?

Regards,
Vince,
OXOjamm.

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From:sc00ter
Date:November 1st, 2008 02:18 pm (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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Well I must say the factcheck.org site has some very convincing photos showing the raised seal and all that. Far better than the image you show above.

Courts have already dismissed the charges, we have yet to hear their opinion if they even decide to take the case.

What would be required to convince you?

There's this image from the fact check site, and these links:

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2008/06/obama-birth.html

http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/birthcertificate.asp

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2008/jun/27/obamas-birth-certificate-part-ii/



I checked out your personal LJ and you have spent a lot of time/effort on this issue specifically.
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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)

Re: Like it or Not

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I have already pored over those images and even better ones and I agree with local forensics people that they are decidedly deceptive.

Please go to this site for a forensic evaluation: http://polarik.blogtownhall.com/

Warning: This could take you a few days and even cause degenerative ocular disorder, so take frequent breaks and rest your eyes. It is exhausting but then the quest for truth always is.

What would it take?...It will take a pass by the FBI to convince me. As of yet, as incredible as this seems, the FBI hasn't got a single requested document.

Regards,
Vince,
OXOjamm.
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From:madfilkentist
Date:November 1st, 2008 11:00 am (UTC)
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Some People believe that if OBAMA is disqualified by the Electoral College, that Bidden Automatically takes office.

You don't understand, among many other things, how the Electoral College works. They can legally vote for anyone they want. There's nothing "automatic" about it.

Let's say that Obama wins and the next day, his mask falls off and we discover that he's really Darth Vader. Then what to do with it is completely in the hands of the electoral college. Since they were chosen for party loyalty, probably they'll follow the instructions of an emergency DNC session. But they can do whatever they want. Precedent: In 1972 one of Nixon's electors bolted and voted for John Hospers and Tonie Nathan.

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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 12:21 pm (UTC)

"Some People believe"

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In an otherwise excellent post, you made the error of assuming.

"Some People believe", is the very beginning of the sentence.

Regards,
Vince,
OXOjamm.

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From:madfilkentist
Date:November 1st, 2008 03:14 pm (UTC)

Re: "Some People believe"

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Followed by "This is a question worth exploring at length."

In other words, you didn't know that the question can be answered immediately.
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From:oxojamm
Date:November 1st, 2008 03:29 pm (UTC)

Re: "Some People believe"

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only if you want to play spin doctor.

V.
OXojamm.
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From:sc00ter
Date:November 19th, 2008 05:23 pm (UTC)

Well

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So far this all looks like a bunch of nothing.
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From:oxojamm
Date:November 19th, 2008 06:59 pm (UTC)

Re: Well, it depends where you have been looking...

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The main Stream Media is not reporting these cases yet and why I cannot say. But a Dozen or more Lawsuits in federal court amount to a constitutional crisis of epic proportions.

Please read here for the latest updates http://citizenwells.wordpress.com/ . Obama has until the 1st of December to respond to the supreme court on this matter and on other dates he must respond to other federal state courts, as well.

Most notable is Another case By California. The California case is being submitted by the PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FROM THE INDEPENDENT PARTY (Ambassador Dr. Alan Keyes), and that gives him clear "STANDING".(Not only that, but the Ambassador is clearly a "Somebody").

What confounds me is why Obama is dragging his feet? Why doesn't he just produce the papers to the supreme court and end this? Or is the end not desirable?

Vince,
OXOjamm.
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